I have not seen this movie but I certainly have heard about the brutality shown in the movie Shaitan. As its tagline says ‘there is a demon in every person’, are you kidding me? You mean to say we should empathise with psychopaths? I mean when normal people say that there is no black or white it only means that some people are selfish or not exactly fair, you cannot blame them for that. But promoting murder by almost saying, “Try it, it is fun” or “if you haven’t killed anyone what’s the point of living” is not acceptable by any standard and is morally and ethically wrong.
How? And I say how on Earth did this movie pass the censor board? Are they blind? That too with U/A rating…U/A RATING????? What do you want to ensure, that the movie and its message are imbibed in the mind of growing kids during the formative years of their life?
I mean I watch Dexter, the series about a compulsive killer, and I think even it has a lesser potentially bad influence on people’s minds. As if people are not justifying their bad deeds by stupid and shameless logic already, you had to make a movie stating “whatever you do is fine, illegal, criminal, anything. Luck is random and you may get away with it.”
Thanks to the pedestrian acting of the actors that the movie did not make a mark. Else I would not bet on the fact that it would not have given birth to a couple of murderers.
Trivia: there was a scene in the movie ‘Hello’ where a character asks another character to bring a condom before they engage in sex. This statement was asked to remove from the movie by the censor board.
What do you want, more population which can turn into offenders?
This is the present scene. As a child I had seen this movie ‘Raja Ki Ayegi Baraat’. It always used to haunt me. I could not figure why, perhaps my thoughts were not well developed, but I tried to remember the story and I realized it’s about a woman who gets raped by a man and asks for “justice” in the court by asking that man to marry her…and NOoooo.. this is not it.. this is just before intermission.. rest of the story revolves around how everyone in the rapist’s extended family treats her badly. And, by the way, this movie was supposed to be feministic.
I mean what worse could they show the girl gets raped and she marries the rapist to reclaim her pride in the society? AND she is a feminist.
This movie promoted gutter mentality in people, that if a woman is raped she is no more subject to any respect unless she MARRIES the guy who haunts her.
The censor boards had no qualms about passing this movie but saying the word condom was somehow unacceptable to it.
And let me assure you, this is not an isolated case, I cannot remember the names but there have been a few other movies on similar lines.
Thanks to ‘Hamara Dil Aapke Paas Hai’ a movie in which it has been shown that it is wrong that people make a girl marry the person who raped her, I had a sigh of relief when I saw this movie, that it is not a socially accepted norm and is considered disgusting by someone other than me. I distinctly remember the long monologue by Anil Kapoor where he detests such attitude.
In conclusion, I would like to say to the censor board and to everybody else who is a hypocrite: stop being one. There is no excuse for it.
i dont think shaitan is a great movie. its flawed in several accounts,though nowhere does it ask ya to empathise with psychopaths. It claims that no matter how protected and healthy your childhood is ; we have not come far from being the beasts that we are, and in the moment the shaitan in you can make you do unspoken things. I lost interest when you mentioned boderline B grade movies from dark ages of indian cinema to have given you a sigh of relief. to me shaitan was a treat, had its strong points. As for the censor board, its high time that it stops putting movies into just 2 boxes. A or U/A
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ReplyDeleteThat is what I meant.. It does not explicitly state that empathize with psychopaths but that is what is implied when they say "we have not come far from being the beasts that we are" focus on the words "beasts" and "we" which is precisely my point. It is trying to create a group mentality that everyone is bad and you are included in everyone so you are bad too. (Seriously, why am I even explaining this.. this is what the word empathize means.)
"Humara Dil Aapke Paas hai" was a "borderline" hit. I am very much against victim blaming in India and the general mentality created right from childhood among Indians that it's the victim's fault. If I have to quote B Grade Hindi films, which have actually impacted me in a positive way, to say what is right, I will do that.
I do not aim to be a pseudo intellectual quoting superhit english movies subtly related to the situation in India to make my point.
This is MY personal blog and I do not give a shit where you lost interest while reading it.Please do not mention it henceforth.
dont take it personally .Shaitan is a dark movie,it doesnt have any positive messg if thats what you look for in movies. it merely leaves you with a simple question. "is it ?" (notice rajeev khandelwal is in black through out the movie chasing kids in hijabs). The censor board has no purpose in questioning this movie .their job should be to notify ppol what they were getting into as they go to theatre rather than simply banning movies. there is a genuine crowd who found the movie interesting. i leave in peace.
ReplyDeleteNot positive is fine but not a negative one..it's more about social responsibility..when you are given so much power to influence people by your movies..you should use it well..and people DO get influenced by movies. \/
ReplyDeleteHey.. I might understand that 'u' have a problem with shaitan and so u wanted sensor board not to pass as it is.
ReplyDeleteI might understand that censor board is acting as a hypocrite, or for some other reasons, it did not do the work that it usually boasts of.
But what exactly is the problem in shaitan? somebody wants to present his views.. somebody who doesn't know the meaning of 'ethics'... which i think is a word of no meaning at all..
You have come to incredibly fallacious conclusions based on faulty logic.
ReplyDeleteYou have wrapped your argument against Shaitan with another seemingly fair grudge against the censor board. Yes, the censor board is stupid. Should they have rated this movie a little higher? Probably. Did the makers of Shaitan do anything ethically wrong by making the movie? No.
'Shaitan' is a bad movie, isn't half as smart as it pretends to be. But it isn't promoting the primal savagery supposedly present in all of us. It isn't reveling in it's own madness.(And there would have been nothing wrong if it had tried to) The movie tries to be subversive of the urban youth, and isn't very subtle about it. The characters are made unlikable to a fault.
Have you seen Fight Club? What did you think of The Joker in The Dark Knight? Or any movie with morally ambiguous protagonists with glamorized violence?
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeletePlease reveal your identity. I am curious to know.
I think I need to bold the sentence where I clearly mention " I have not seen the movie. " My views are based on a review by friend. So they are doubly biased. what I can say though is that promoting violence, homicide and empathising with it is the worst you can do to the World, a crime greater than murder itself. That attitude "yaar, uss samay tu wahan hota to tu bhi yahi karta" can not be allowed to grow.
ReplyDeletePS I don't understand why this post is getting so much attention? is it because I used the word fuck in the title? I am not even proud of this post. I give My personal opinion once and everyone starts questioning it whereas pleasant and beautiful posts go unnoticed.